the deficit. unemployment. economic growth. we are not having an intelligent debate about solving those. we will not hear the president talk intelligently about them. i hope i am wrong. >> do you think politicians think americans are too stupid to know what going on? >> yes. ross ten -- rostenskowsky went to prison, and so does duke cunningham. >> i disagree respectfully with john and i would say the american people are disappointed because they expect more and they know they can get more. there you are been senators who have risen above and we are not seeing people who put the people's business ahead of their political interests. partisanship is standing in the way of solving problems which is why we have talked. >> a perfect example is the simpson-bowles debt reduction decision, both had a good plan, ignored bit establishment by both parties, the president appointed them and he will not talk about it and the republicans who sponsored it do not want to talk about it but it is the one route to solving some of the main problems.